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A successful group ride depends upon other things  compatibility, both in personality and riding style. For those who may be thinking of circumnavigating The Lake, the SKUNK Rally would be one opportunity to explore if you wish to rider alone or with a group. If your preference tis group riding than exploring personal compatibility and riding style is ESSENTIAL!!!

Minor irritations and differences are magnified by miles traveled, while great experiences and fond memories are fostered by compatibility. Everyone has a different riding style and preferences and I can't emphasize enough the importance of matching your preferences with those you ride.

BTDT and it ain't fun if ye don't match.

Below are some things to consider, both in general and specifically related to things to look for in matching riding styles. I'm using our style as an example, not the best or only style, but the one that fits me and the people I ride with

 

         

Alone Or In A Group

You have to decide if you're going to travel alone or with others. There are advantages and disadvantages to both choices. I like both depending on my mood and who the others may be. During the past five years I've found that whenever I travel alone I get rained on about half the time I'm on the bike, sometimes more. If I travel with someone else I never even take out my rain suit, even when I can see thunderstorms on all points around me. There may be some cosmic meaning here but I'm too dense to figure it out.

Touring Alone

If you travel alone you can do whatever you want whenever you want. This can be very nice. You also tend to make much better time - high mileage days are MUCH easier when you're alone. It's also easier to find a place to sleep since you only have to satisfy your own motel or campsite requirements.

On the down side there is no one to talk to on breaks or during meals. If you breakdown you're on your own. You're also more vulnerable to the crazies and the local rednecks who like to mess with bikers. This isn't common but it still happens.

Touring In A Group

In a group there is more security and people to talk to but at the price of lowest common denominator behavior and decision making. The degree to which this is a problem varies with your personality and that of your travel companions. Remember that the IQ of a group is the IQ of the dumbest person in the group divided by the number of people in a group. As a consequence, groups can do some pretty stupid things - things that the individual members would never do on their own.

You will not make as high an average speed in a group as you would alone. This is true for ALL groups regardless of makeup. With a group all stops will take longer. On average planned stops for groups take the planned amount of time plus a minimum of an extra 5 minutes for each bike beyond one. For example, a planned 15 minute stop with three bikes will take 15+((3-1)*5)=25 minutes. You can see that for large groups once you stop you run the risk of never leaving until it's time to go home. This rule is true for day trips, multi-month tours, and everything in between.

You must also consider the frequency of stops, also known as the pose factor. Posers are not touring motorcyclists. They seldom ride more than a couple thousand miles (3200 km) a year, mostly from their house to the nearest biker hangout and back. To them a serious road trip is about 100 mi (160 km). Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against posers per se, many of them are really nice people. It's just that if you want to actually ride your motorcycle having posers in your group can be really frustrating as they always have some silly reason to stop. They say things like "we've been riding nonstop for 50 miles (80km) and I need a break." On a day-trip this can drive you nuts but on a cross country jaunt it can ruin the experience (unless you're the person who wants to stop).

Fortunately, most posers have no desire to go on long trips. BTW, posers are not limited to a particular brand or category of motorcycle. They are not limited to any particular profession or socioeconomic strata although lawyers do seem to be overrepresented. They are just people who are not into long distance riding. That's fine as long as you don't expect them tour.

Some Rules For Group Touring

Pick your group carefully. If you pick the wrong group you'll be miserable, or they will, or both. The wrong group is one where not all the members follow the same rules. It doesn't matter so much what the rules are just that everyone follows them. If there are no known rules then no one can (or will) follow them and therefore EVERYONE will be unhappy. If you don't want to follow other peoples' rules, don't ride in a group. If you're in a group of squids don't get pissed if they ride too fast - they're squids and that what squids do. Don't say I didn't warn you!

There are some rules that apply to all groups. All groups have to have some way of keeping together. There are two common methods.

  1. Before you leave a stop decide where the next stop will be so that the laggards and speed freaks can be reunited with the group.

  2. The leaders stop at the next turn and don't leave until the last bike gets there.

There are variations on both these methods but the important thing is that some method is chosen, communicated to all the group's members, and followed by everyone. This is important!

There is a third method that many groups follow - everyone will stay together on the road so we don't have to do one of the first two listed above. This almost never works and is always a bad idea, don't do it.

Be willing to leave the group if things get too bad. On a day trip this isn't a big deal but on a two week trip it can be a substantial problem. The best way to make it possible to leave is to be self contained. That means no shared resources, everything you will need is on your bike at all times, not on someone else's. If you decide to leave and you need an hour to unload everyone's bike to redistribute all the stuff so that you can leave, this will just increase the bad feelings. If it's a quick "I'm going to take off, have a good trip." things will go a lot easier. BTW, if you do decide to leave the group always tell someone that you're leaving.

For long distances, groups of more than four are pretty much unmanageable. If you must travel with more than four bikes break up into smaller groups on the road and plan to meet using rules one or two listed above. I prefer two to three bikes in a group.

Ref: http://www.visi.com/~dalebor/group.htm

         

Traveling With Jim

         

Trip Planning:

Generally agree we want to end the trip by such and such a date, may end a day or two earlier but no later. For the circumnavigation the schedule is fixed, Rally to Rally.

         
Daily Planning:

 Look at map evening before and decide approximate route, activities and distance for the morrow. What do we think we want to stop and see, etc. "A good traveler etc, etc."

         
Daily Ride:

 Up somewhat early, motel cuppa coffee each and for me several cubes of 50% fat reduced cheese or a Slim Jim - don't like to start day on heavy tummy.. Had gassed up previous evening. Leave between 7 and 8 for the first gas stop, 150 miles (or so) ahead. May stop at things to see on the way but cannot stop at every museum, scenic view, or historical site so use judgment and know what each other likes to see. Gas stops generally about every 150 miles unless someone has small tank. During the stops I nibble on the cheese cubes, Slim Jims, broccoli salad or a trail favorite, High Fiber Crackers (keep regular y'know) and kippered herring or sardines and a Jim gobbles some kind of sticky, gooey sweet goop some time around noon. Others may get a sandwich, burger or roll to eat while we gas up or at the next scenic stop. Traveling leisurely find motel around 3 or 4. I relax over trail supper (more hi fiber stuff) or a salad from a local supermarket deli, Jim with sandwich from gas station. If feel special we may shoot for cuisine of area (Mexican, steak, seafood ???) but not often. Others visit area eateries of their choice. And so we sit outside and supervise the sunset. Short days are around 200 miles, long ones approach 500.

As has been said, "Eat, sleep, ride, repeat. Life tis good".

         
DrivingStyle:
  • Staggered Formation
  • Jim ALWAYS rides tail
  • 3 to 4 second intervals on hiway, close up in towns.
  • Speed Limit, not over! Or speed of slowest bike.
  • On 2 lane roads with occasional passing lanes, as in Canada, slow down and signal truckers behind to come on around. (We be on vacation, they are not.)
  • No more than 4 bikes in a group. There may be more on the ride but divide up into a maximum of 4 so as to allow peeples in a hurry to pass only a few, not a half mile of bikes.
  • Generally no need to pull up to talk as all know gas range and if leader leads us astray, simply stop until leader sees he/she ain't leading no one. By the same token if lose sight of rider behind you slow down until see him/her again or those ahead lose sight of you and slow also.
 

Lake Superior Circumnavigation: Cautions, Disclaimers and Other Avoidances of Responsibilities

  • There is be no chase vehicle. If one breaks down road courtesy helps one get to a town, repair shop, motel, phone, but the trip goes on.
  • Each tis responsible for their own lodging.
  • We ride rain or shine, cold or hot. My first trip around with Jerry the Rainmaker, it rained 40 days and 40 nights, or so it seemed.

 

 

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